Pain Inverter stacking - Guild Wars Forums

WhiteAsIce · Dec 04, 2009, 01:11 AM // 01:11

Do multiple party members using Pain Inverter on one foe stack?
I didn't think so... I would think that everyone using PI at the same time is a waste. So does PI actually stack on a foe?

Axeman002 · Dec 04, 2009, 01:17 AM // 01:17

no...just one pi cast work..best thing to do is time or watch when foe's bar stops dropping in big chunks...then recast Pi.

snaek · Dec 04, 2009, 01:17 AM // 01:17

no hexes stack; with the exception of certain hexes like life siphon which the foe will only suffer -3 degen, but each member will receive +3 regen.

OoO Rift OoO · Dec 04, 2009, 01:18 AM // 01:18

thats like saying if you use two conjure nightmares on a foe, it'll have 18 degen

So no

WhiteAsIce · Dec 04, 2009, 01:51 AM // 01:51

I asked because on some dungeon runs, the runner tells the rest of the party to cast PI at the same time (Ooze Pit and Rragar, for example). When that happened, the boss went down in seconds.

Killamus · Dec 04, 2009, 02:58 AM // 02:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteAsIce

I asked because on some dungeon runs, the runner tells the rest of the party to cast PI at the same time (Ooze Pit and Rragar, for example). When that happened, the boss went down in seconds.

That's because the boss would have gone down in seconds with just one cast. The runner was probably mistaken.

Think about it, 80*8 is 640 health, and if your party members had spirits too, that would add even more.

Bob Slydell · Dec 04, 2009, 03:16 AM // 03:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteAsIce

I asked because on some dungeon runs, the runner tells the rest of the party to cast PI at the same time (Ooze Pit and Rragar, for example). When that happened, the boss went down in seconds.

I think the runner is wrong... If the Boss AoEs, he is going to suffer the damage from PI multiple times in one hit, IF he hits a bunch of people. So I think what is happening is the runner saw multiple -80's above the boss' head from multiple people applying it and got overexcited... the boss is AoE'ing.

Bathal Nasp · Dec 04, 2009, 05:53 AM // 05:53

Yep, runner is wrong. I usually just wait a couple seconds after everyone casts their PI's all at once, then use my copy.

karlik · Dec 04, 2009, 07:49 AM // 07:49

I'm level 10 asuran, my brother is level 5. If I do PI I see big damage numbers. If he does his after I do mine damage numbers drop. Nope it doesn't stack, and it's important for a low asuran rank not to overwrite it.

Quaker · Dec 04, 2009, 04:57 PM // 16:57

No they don't stack, and it's a good idea to decide who's going to use it, in what order, before you attack, so that you avoid overlapping them.

jonnieboi05 · Dec 04, 2009, 08:01 PM // 20:01

Stacking Pi's would be a helluva exploit. Pi x 8 would be... Just....... "wtfh4xroflpwned" type of thing.

But nah, Pi's do not stack. As Quaker said team synergy is very good to have when using multiple copies of this skill. I'd definatey recommend using Ventrilo/Skype/ect to communicate for this. If you're very experienced at watching the battle field you should actually have no problem chaining Pi onto targets.

Iuris · Dec 04, 2009, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Pain inverter certainly doesn't stack.

However, there could be a situation where it's absolutely necessary that Pain inverter be on a specific foe and every extra copy helps? Like, when there are hex removers around or it's important to hit exactly THE big damage dealing skill?

Martin Firestorm · Dec 04, 2009, 09:00 PM // 21:00

Or when its a boss and your only getting a 5 sec duration max.

Faroth the Huntress · Dec 06, 2009, 08:42 PM // 20:42

Stacking PI would be about 640 damage per second. As fun as having 5000 something damage done to a single foe at once would be, it is just too much.

Sethellington · Dec 06, 2009, 10:24 PM // 22:24

if only.
no hexes stack

Killamus · Dec 06, 2009, 11:05 PM // 23:05

Not true, some do. Skills like Assassin's Promise and Life Siphon act like this:

For each person who puts Life Siphon on a foe, that foe suffers ONLY the greatest degen, why all allies that used Life Siphon on a foe obtain their respective regen.

Works like that with all hexes that benefit the person who casted them too (Like energy/health gain on end)

Quaker · Dec 06, 2009, 11:54 PM // 23:54

That's not "stacking" - benefits to the people don't stack, each caster gets only the benefit from their own hex.

Dec 04, 2009, 01:11 AM // 01:11	#1
WhiteAsIce Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2008 Profession: R/	Pain Inverter stacking Do multiple party members using Pain Inverter on one foe stack? I didn't think so... I would think that everyone using PI at the same time is a waste. So does PI actually stack on a foe?

Dec 04, 2009, 08:01 PM // 20:01	#11
jonnieboi05 Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mableton, Georgia Guild: Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]	Stacking Pi's would be a helluva exploit. Pi x 8 would be... Just....... "wtfh4xroflpwned" type of thing. But nah, Pi's do not stack. As Quaker said team synergy is very good to have when using multiple copies of this skill. I'd definatey recommend using Ventrilo/Skype/ect to communicate for this. If you're very experienced at watching the battle field you should actually have no problem chaining Pi onto targets. Last edited by jonnieboi05; Dec 04, 2009 at 08:35 PM // 20:35..

Dec 04, 2009, 01:17 AM // 01:17	#2
Axeman002 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2008 Profession: A/Mo	no...just one pi cast work..best thing to do is time or watch when foe's bar stops dropping in big chunks...then recast Pi.

Dec 04, 2009, 01:17 AM // 01:17	#3
snaek Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: N/	no hexes stack; with the exception of certain hexes like life siphon which the foe will only suffer -3 degen, but each member will receive +3 regen.

Dec 04, 2009, 01:18 AM // 01:18	#4
OoO Rift OoO Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 127.0.0.1 Profession: Rt/	thats like saying if you use two conjure nightmares on a foe, it'll have 18 degen So no

Dec 04, 2009, 01:51 AM // 01:51	#5
WhiteAsIce Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2008 Profession: R/	I asked because on some dungeon runs, the runner tells the rest of the party to cast PI at the same time (Ooze Pit and Rragar, for example). When that happened, the boss went down in seconds.

Dec 04, 2009, 05:53 AM // 05:53	#8
Bathal Nasp Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: N/	Yep, runner is wrong. I usually just wait a couple seconds after everyone casts their PI's all at once, then use my copy.

Dec 04, 2009, 07:49 AM // 07:49	#9
karlik Banned Join Date: Sep 2009	I'm level 10 asuran, my brother is level 5. If I do PI I see big damage numbers. If he does his after I do mine damage numbers drop. Nope it doesn't stack, and it's important for a low asuran rank not to overwrite it.

Dec 04, 2009, 04:57 PM // 16:57	#10
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	No they don't stack, and it's a good idea to decide who's going to use it, in what order, before you attack, so that you avoid overlapping them.

Dec 04, 2009, 08:51 PM // 20:51	#12
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	Pain inverter certainly doesn't stack. However, there could be a situation where it's absolutely necessary that Pain inverter be on a specific foe and every extra copy helps? Like, when there are hex removers around or it's important to hit exactly THE big damage dealing skill?

Dec 04, 2009, 09:00 PM // 21:00	#13
Martin Firestorm Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Louisiana Profession: E/Me	Or when its a boss and your only getting a 5 sec duration max.

Dec 06, 2009, 08:42 PM // 20:42	#14
Faroth the Huntress Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: In the Black Guild: The Captains [\|\|\|] Profession: R/A	Stacking PI would be about 640 damage per second. As fun as having 5000 something damage done to a single foe at once would be, it is just too much.

Dec 06, 2009, 10:24 PM // 22:24	#15
Sethellington Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: nn Profession: N/	if only. no hexes stack

Dec 06, 2009, 11:05 PM // 23:05	#16
Killamus Guest Join Date: Oct 2008	Not true, some do. Skills like Assassin's Promise and Life Siphon act like this: For each person who puts Life Siphon on a foe, that foe suffers ONLY the greatest degen, why all allies that used Life Siphon on a foe obtain their respective regen. Works like that with all hexes that benefit the person who casted them too (Like energy/health gain on end)

Dec 06, 2009, 11:54 PM // 23:54	#17
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	That's not "stacking" - benefits to the people don't stack, each caster gets only the benefit from their own hex.